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So far the members we have gotten here are all the type that want a topic done in your own words so they get turned off very fast if over half the text is something quoted from another source. It is a different crowd than what you find on the Christian boards like yours or mine so do a few topics in your own words and you will find people here warming up emoticon

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No, that's not it at all. I've posted at non-religious sites with a warmer response. The "Assurance of Salvation" one was tacked to the top of the forum at one place, and ridiculed at another.
It has nothing to do with copy and paste, it's the message itself. I wrote "Judge Not" with a couple of short quotes, "Dangerous Christianity" all mine, "Theology Discussion" is all mine - when are you going to get back to that one, btw?

And I've posted on others, "Near Death Experience", "Alien Invasions", and "The Ten Commandments", none of which were my threads, no copy and pastes, but maybe a little Scripture - and THAT'S what's hated.

I do not wish to discuss "sexy clothing" or "drugs" or "eccentricity" so I avoid the topics. I do not troll them and attempt to derail them into something else.
And yet, I'm the who is said to be "trolling", I'm the one "preaching at those who don't want to hear it" and "cramming stuff down people's throats" - how is that even possible on a message board?
What is it? Are the titles throwing people off? Are they not clear enough and somehow people are being tricked into reading my posts?

I'm not offended by any of this. But a lot of people are whining and complaining. Why?

I think it's because they feel conviction and they don't like it. There are a lot of hardened hearts and hatred for the Lord over here.

Ok, enough of my rant. All my own words, btw.
Carry on.

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I think it's because they feel conviction and they don't like it. There are a lot of hardened hearts and hatred for the Lord over here.



You asked the question and in all fairness, I will reply.

This is why we try to avoid you. Even when you try to explain yourself, you can't help making judgments.
You say what you think, I'm not guessing about what you think, so you 'think' we feel conviction? Conviction about what, yes I am convinced that there is not truth in a god figure deciding everything for me, does that conviction make me 'not like it' of course not. I do not feel a conviction that someone is watching over my shoulder and reading my mind so what is not to like.

A 'heart' cannot be hardened, a heart is a muscle contained in your chest, it s function has nothing at all to do with your thinking process, so learn some anatomy and secondly, it cannot be hardened. If you are trying to say that we have closed our minds to stupidity, and ignorant judgments about who and what we are, maybe more people should be doing that instead of following blindly like sheep into religious fanaticism.

And 'hatred for the lord' a very strong emotion to feel about something that doesn't exist and that cannot in an unbiased way be proved to exist. I have had some very bad encounters with some very bad people in my time, but I have never felt 'hatred' it is far too strong an emotion to waste on nonsense and on people and events that don't count. I might casually say that I hate when the lights go out and I have to fumble in the dark,or I hate when it rains when I have to go out, but that is merely expressing a strong dislike for darkness and no electricity so I cant use my computer and tv,and a strong dislike for getting wet in my good clothes.
I never feel that strong a dislike for any person. If I come across someone who I don't like as a person, I merely avoid them, I don't hate them. And I certainly don't hate your religion or your deity, I don't believe in the deity so therefore I cannot have an emotion for it.
So, I would ask you again, please choose your words carefully, don't be so quick to judge. Try to practice the philosophy of your 'saviour': do to others what you would have them do to you, and love your neighbor as you love yourself.

I've always lived like that, and I didn't need it to be taught to me, I merely figured out that if you behave in this way, you tend to have a pretty good life, and maybe that is exactly what the man was trying to say in the first place.
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Yes there is discussion but also fun but not when there is constant bombardment
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Well said Sertab.
Also if I may add, we expect our research to be answered as well, not just ignored.
If Mel wants us to comment on what he posts, then he should comment on our posts as well.
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Nevermind.

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One thing I have discovered is that the language we use in the Christian community is not understood in the non-Christian community many times, or it is understood in a way almost totally contrary to how we, as Christians, use the terms and this can create false perceptions on both sides.

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What sort of language and terms are you referring to, Rick?

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I do not wish to discuss "sexy clothing" or "drugs" or "eccentricity" so I avoid the topics. I do not troll them and attempt to derail them into something else.
And yet, I'm the who is said to be "trolling", I'm the one "preaching at those who don't want to hear it" and "cramming stuff down people's throats" - how is that even possible on a message board?

 



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One thing I have discovered is that the language we use in the Christian community is not understood in the non-Christian community many times, or it is understood in a way almost totally contrary to how we, as Christians, use the terms and this can create false perceptions on both sides.



Is this what is meant by 'speaking in tongues'? It looks pretty much like English to me.
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