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Lets just for a moment suppose that God did create all that we see and have and know about.

Well where did God come from to start with?? and why? and how?

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God always was. That's hard for us to wrap our brains around, being subjected to time as we are, but God stands outside of time.

Space is the same way, though, if that helps to make sense of it. Where is the end to space? If you have a brick wall with a sign that says, "The End" on it, I'd want to know what's on the other side of that wall. Space continues, without beginning or end. God is eternal, He always was and always will be.


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That does not answer my question!

Where is the proof? All I have read are only explanations that someone has congured up because they really cannot really answer it.

Folks who pretend they have an answer to the existant of god are usually out to force their own thoughts on others. In short, Mind control!

Once you can control what someone else thinks, you can control what they do.!
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The proof is in creation. Do you really think that life just happened by accident? I'd be interested in proof of that! There is actually much evidence against such an idea. Life only comes from life, irreducible complexity, DNA code, etc.

It comes down to Cause and Effect. The problem with your logic, is thinking that God is an effect, when actually, He is the Cause.

But, no mind control here, you're given the freedom to believe what you will.

You may not like my explanation, but you've got nothing better. What would you say is the First Cause?


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Well I am not trying to prove or dis prove about the existance of god. That is your job! You have to convince me! So far I have seen nothing but meaningless words that have come down thru the ages from people who tried to understand what this god business all means.

people can and often do go completely bonkers as he explores all of creation. And thinks that maybe he or she has unlocked the truth of god and space and galaxsies and whatever.

Folks are trying to get a handle of what god is. or if there really is a god!

Humans are simply not capable of finding all of these answers.. emoticon
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Actually no, it is not my job to prove or disprove anything Bummee. The Bible makes the claim as a self evident fact and while there are 7 "proofs" of God's existence presented in the Bible the bottom line is that you have to examine the evidence of the creation and yourself for yourself.

I can give you facts and show you scripture but only you can determine if that is enough.

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Yeah, I agree with Pastor Rick there. I can't really prove anything to you, I can only point you towards the evidence and witness. That's all I'm called to do (Ezekiel 33:8-9).
The one true God reveals Himself to you in the Bible. His law is written on your heart (just a figure of speech, Morwen), and you know that He exists. You might supress that knowledge, but you have to try pretty hard to deny it. Usually, there's a reason for it.
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Humans are simply not capable of finding all of these answers..

So, you're agnostic then? emoticon





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No! Not an "Agnostic" exactly.

Just trying to understand how others feel about the subject. Maybe something will be pointed out to me that will clear up the subject.

God is mentioned as "HE!" Now does that mean that God is indeed a male? And why would that Be?

My Dad told this story about a coworker about this subject. They went round and round for several days. Somehow the theory came up that it was all only a dream.

The discussion ended that day when the coworker finished his lunch break and walked away shaking his head. He was mumbling something like this,

"So all I am is a charactor in somone's dream!"

This is a very deep subject and one that will be looked at for many years to come. emoticon

Well anyway good luck with whatever you are trying to do!
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I by the way am pretty much a hard line agnostic, exactly in the sence that I don't believe we can know or prove that God exists or not.

So I disagree with everyone who says God exists and everyone who says He doesn't. Got to stay out of fights on this, cause I'm pretty sure to be outnumbered emoticon

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