Morwen Oronor
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Re: So ... Science and the Bible?
quote: Pastor Rick wrote:
Mo, the first two points can be argued (I mean discussed) but the third point is moot. Even the most liberal dating of the Book places it at 200 BC which is 2000 years before the first mapping expeditions of the oceans floor!
I agree, about the date of writing. I should have said that.
I think that the conclusion about the bottom of the sea not being a smooth surface would be a logical deduction, especially if you believe in the story of Noah, and that the water covered the whole earth and then receded, Of course it would have covered mountains as well, so logically it makes sense that there would be mountains under the sea. So drawing that conclusion is not phenomenal, just common sense and logic. If the author of the book of Jonah is to be praised at all, it's not for being thinking scientifically, but rather for applying common sense and logic, something pretty unheard of in those superstitious times and especially for someone who believed that it was possible to survive for 3? days in the belly of an animal underwater without oxygen, the whale would have to have swallowed a whole lot of air with Jonah for that to have been true.
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9/25/2008, 5:17 am
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Pastor Rick
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Re: So ... Science and the Bible?
One possibility given by many apologists is that Jonah did die while he was in the fishes belly. Then was revived when being regurgitated on the 3rd day. When you also look at the way a day was counted in the Hebrew culture the time of survival could have been as little as 24 hours, 2 seconds (the Jews counted ANY portion of a day as a whole day on several occasions).
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9/25/2008, 9:31 am
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Morwen Oronor
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Re: So ... Science and the Bible?
LOL very true.
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9/25/2008, 11:09 am
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Pastor Rick
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Re: So ... Science and the Bible?
Of course its true... we agreed again! There is truth out there
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9/25/2008, 11:38 am
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Re: So ... Science and the Bible?
Little Sally was transferred from Christian school to public school. On her first day in the class the teacher introduced herself as "Mrs. Crump" and then said, "Today we're going to study in Zoology and the first subject in Zoology we're going to study will be whales.
Does anyone know anything about whales?" No-one raised their hand. Then Sally raised her hand. Mrs. Crump said, "What do you know about whales Sally?" Sally said, "Jonah was swallowed by a whale!" Mrs. Crump said, "That's nonsense! The throat of the whale is too narrow to swallow a man! Where did you get that foolish supposition?" Sally said, "That's what my Bible says!" Mrs. Crump said, "Your Bible is wrong!
As I said, a whale's throat is too narrow to swallow a man. What do you think now?" Sally thought for a minute and then said, "I guess I'll have to wait until I get to heaven and ask Jonah himself what happened." Mrs. Crump thought she'd be smart and asked Sally, "What happens if Jonah isn't there to ask?" Again Sally thought for a minute and then said, "Then I guess YOU will have to ask him."
Sorry, couldn't help myself
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John 8:36 So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.
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9/25/2008, 12:04 pm
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Morwen Oronor
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Re: So ... Science and the Bible?
According to the X-Files the truth is out there.
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9/25/2008, 1:01 pm
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Lesigner Girl
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Re: So ... Science and the Bible?
I know that whales are even-toed ungulates, and are more closely related to rhinos than they are to fish.
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9/25/2008, 8:07 pm
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Morwen Oronor
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Re: So ... Science and the Bible?
That's right they are mammals, not fish.
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9/25/2008, 11:19 pm
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