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If I knew then what I know now I would live my 20's over again so I could set it up to spend more time with PK and she wouldn't need to work so hard.

Of course, in our home the "gun control" is about a dozen samurai swords that really are sharper than a razor...

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[sign in to see URL] is so sweet Pastor... emoticon

And you collect Samurai swords? Those instruments are amazing pieces of work!

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We've just had a terrible case here where a kid took a Samurai sword to school and went ballistic with it, killing one of his classmates and injuring others including a couple of teachers.
His case was due up in court this week but with being away down at the cottage, I haven't heard the outcome ... very sad.

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This is all I can find at the moment ... not sure if he has been sentenced yet:

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Harmse shows no remorse, state argues
JOHANNESBURG, SOUTH AFRICA Sep 01 2009 15:10
   

Morne Harmse has shown no remorse for his killing of a fellow student with a sword, the high court in Johannesburg heard during sentencing procedures on Tuesday.

"The guilty party is certainly a first-time offender, but he shows absolutely no remorse over his gruesome deeds," argued prosecutor Gerrit Roberts.

Harmse carried out the attack, in which he killed 16-year-old Jacques Pretorius and wounded three others, at the Nic Diederichs Technical High School in Krugersdorp, west of Johannesburg, last August.

Roberts said schools were meant to be a safe place, where parents could leave their children without fear.

He said the fact that Harmse committed his crime at this safe place, was "very serious".

Roberts said Harmse also planned the attack long before the crime, making the mask he wore during the attack two months in advance. He also planned the Monday morning attack with friends on the Friday before.

Roberts said the victims were unknown to Harmse, and two were innocent schoolchildren in the prime of their lives.

"The victims were just at the wrong place at the wrong time, whose paths crossed [with Harmse] that day."

Roberts said a life sentence applied in this case.

 "The seriousness of the crime, must reflect a fitting punishment."

Harmse's defence lawyer, meanwhile, argued that a sentence of life imprisonment was not appropriate in the case.

"The minimum sentence of life doesn't fit ... long term prison is what should be given," Dolph Jonker told the court.

He said the youth of Harmse, now 19, should be taken into account.

"Lifelong punishment for a young man is a different punishment than for a 50-year-old".

Jonker said a psychologist and social worker had noted that Harmse was immature for his age.

"Is he a young man or an old child?" he asked, submitting that Harmse's "dysfunctional" family circumstances, with a history of family violence, be taken into account.

Harmse also had personality problems. He was "a complicated person who lived in a dream world", Jonker told the court.

He needed to go to a prison like Leeuwkop, in Johannesburg, where he could receive therapy.

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Earlier, the court heard that Harmse experimented with elements of satanism, but he was not a satanist.

"He is only a person who experimented self-style," an expert in the occult, Dr Jonker Jacobus, said.

He said he thought Harmse wore a mask and carried swords during his attack to get a certain power.

"They seek a power. They want to say 'I have a power or strength to manipulate people'."

Jacobus said while Harmse's room at home had satanic paraphernalia, like an ouija board and an image of a demon painted on a bedside stool, these were also interspersed with things a full satanist would not use.

For example, he burnt candles, some of which were pink or white, and had normal coloured bedspreads and curtains whereas a satanist would use red and black.

Asked what he thought about the killing, Jacobus said: "It's shocking ... the whole business is heartbreaking." -- Sapa



This article was in the Mail and Guardian newspaper.

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That is horrible [sign in to see URL] death or harm done by kids to kids is hard to fathom....
but you have to admit, a sword is much harder to conceal and can do less damage than a loaded gun...
But the fault should be with the [sign in to see URL] the parents.


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I agree ... evidently he took the sword to school on the pretext of showing it in a lesson.

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Here no school allows any [sign in to see URL] even a 3 inch knife on one of those "Multi-tools" that my son carries...
He would not have been able to even get permission to bring in a Samurai sword....

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Weapons of any kind aren't allowed in schools here either Queeny but these kids are so wily, they still get them in somehow ... short of putting metal detectors at the gates or strip searching them it's difficult to know what to do!
I don't think he asked permission to take the sword - he just arrived with it, and started running amok before anyone even realised he had the darn thing!

His sentencing was today - 20 years.

]Sword killer sentenced

Looks as though butter wouldn't melt in his mouth but ...!!


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