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I'd say no one is beyond hope who has a loving brother like Rick....who after all this time, still cares enough to rant and rave about him, instead of writing him off... emoticon

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Unfortunately there are some people who just don't appreciate the kindness of their families and who will go on being idiots until they die. Those people are really far better being written off.
Life is too short to waste it on idiots who contribute nothing constructive and who only cause pain and stress.
Usually just a threat that they conform to the family's standard or leave brings them back into line, if it doesn't then they are not worth wasting time on.
You can choose your friends but unfortunately you cannot choose your family but I believe that if your family abuses you and does not behave in a way that you would be friends with them even if they weren't related to you, then let them go.
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people are really far better being written off.

That's the easy way out, isn't it? What happens when others decide that you no longer "conform to the family's standard" and have outlived your usefulness?
With what you've posted before about your interaction with some of the extended family, you might be pretty close.

No, humans have worth, we're made in the image of God and that's what makes us different than the animals. But in your belief, we're nothing but glorified animals, and any morals that you have, you must steal them from Christianity, because they make no sense in your own worldview.

 

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No need to get personal with me when I'm trying to give someone an objective opinion about how to deal with something that has absolutely nothing to do with religion.
You are born into a family without any participation on your part, you are merely the product of an act between your parents. Why should the accident of your birth determine that you have to be responsible for all the other people in that family? It's not your fault if your brother is an idiot. If your brother commits a crime, are you culpable? According to your reasoning, you are.
Sorry, but I see no reason to be attached to people simply because they share my DNA. If a member of my family behaves like an idiot, then he can do it all on his own, I want nothing to do with it.
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That post seems very cold and from an uncaring person Rick. To write someone, anyone, off like that is inexcusable! And to even suggest this kind of write off of your brother makes me want to upchuck!

I may not agree with you about many things Rick but I will not post such things about sliblings! You obviously care about him and you are feeling a great deal of pain.

All I can offer is to "HANG IN THERE!" Things will get better!

Even some of the lower animals will stick by their offspring or friends when that friend is in trouble!

I have seen this loyalty several times in the lower animals.

FOR SHAME!

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Amen to that Bummee!



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So Mel, you are saying that if your brother is a serial killer, you will not condemn him but will protect him from the law and stand by him when he is tried, sentenced and condemned to death!
This makes you an accomplice before the law.
Believe me, I'm not prepared to go to prison for anyone, not even my own children. If one of my kids committed a crime, he would be thrown out of my family without any further ado. I do not consort with criminals.
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Isn't there somewhere in the Bible where it says something to the effect of "Am I my brother's keeper" - words to that effect?

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My dad had a saying "son, when you are right I'll stand with you no matter what the outcome but when you are wrong, you are just as wrong as anyone else."

My brother is a idiot on this and has to face the consequences. I'll support him where I can and be there when all is said and done but that doesn't mean I will do wrong to protect him. I just can not go there and remain true to my own self or to the memory of my father.

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Which is basically exactly what I'm saying. I will champion anyone who has had wrong done to them or if someone is wrongly accused, but when someone breaks the law knowing that they are doing wrong, then I have no sympathy for them.
I don't think that's harsh. It was the way I was raised, my dad used to say that you can lose everything you own and regain it, but once you've lost your good name, you will never regain it. My kids were raised that way as well, I told them never to do anything that was likely to come back and embarrass them or the family and now they don't even tell me when they get a parking fine, because they know I'll jump on them.
In almost 50 years of driving, I've never even had even a parking ticket. The law is the law and you have to obey it.
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