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The Ten Commandments are first found in Exodus 20:1-17. The same text is just divided differently between Catholic and Protestants. Here's how they come out, from an ]atheist site.
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Abbreviated Protestant Ten Commandments:

1. You shall have no other gods but me.
2. You shall not make unto you any graven images
3. You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain
4. You shall remember the Sabbath and keep it holy
5. Honor your mother and father
6. You shall not murder
7. You shall not commit adultery
8. You shall not steal
9. You shall not bear false witness
10. You shall not covet anything that belongs to your neighbor
  

Abbreviated Catholic Ten Commandments:

1. I, the Lord, am your God. You shall not have other gods besides me.
2. You shall not take the name of the Lord God in vain
3. Remember to keep holy the Lord's Day
4. Honor your father and your mother
5. You shall not kill
6. You shall not commit adultery
7. You shall not steal
8. You shall not bear false witness
9. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife
10. You shall not covet your neighbor's goods


There's a nice little chart on ]Wiki showing the Division of the Ten Commandments by religion/denomination, but it all comes from the same text. Does that make sense?





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I don't care because I feel that if you say that the Bible is the Word of God, then you should go with what the Bible says, irrespective of your religion, and both Genesis and Deuteronomy agree. So whatever each religion says, surely doesn't count. If you go with the idea that the Bible has the last word.
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I was just reading through this old thread, some interesting stuff in here.
So, here's some info on the OT Law in general, including the Ten Commandments and what applies today and why. With the authority of Scripture verses to back it, of course.

The Law can be divided into three categories: Moral, Civil, and Ceremonial.

The Ceremonial Laws (animal sacrifices, the Sabbath, etc) were pointing us to a comming Messiah, and were fulfilled in Jesus, so they no longer apply.

Colossians 2:14-17
having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us; He took it away, nailing it to the cross. And having disarmed the powers and authorities, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross.
Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a new moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.


The Civil Laws were written to a specific people at a specific time and specific place and do not pertain to Christians under the New Covenant. The basic responsibility for this civil aspect of the Law, which shows the application of the moral Law within a community, has been transferred to human government.

Romans 13:1
Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.


The Moral Law finds its basis in the character of God and is presented in outline form in the Ten Commandments.
It has never been revoked or abolished but finds its authority in the New Covenant. Every unbeliever is still under its requirement of perfection and its condemnation until he comes to Christ, and every believer still finds in it the standard for behavior.

Romans 8:3-4
For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.


So, the Moral Law (the Ten Commandments) still stands and applies to our lives now, yet keeping the Law is not what saves us. It only shows us our need for a Savior.
The Law is a schoolmaster to lead us to Christ, that we may be justified by faith (Gal 3:24).







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Hi Mel... this ain't fair because I have less than 3 minutes before I have to go emoticon

My own opinion is that the Orthodox church has the division of the 10 commandments correct if you are basing it (the divisions) on the Hebrew text.

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Hey Pastor Rick! emoticon

I don't think that how they're divided is all that important, it's all based on the same Biblical text. Scriptures do not say, "Here's Commandment #1, here's #2, etc" it just gives them.
Different groups divide them differently, but the Biblical text remains the same.



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Amen to that emoticon Now if we could just get the translators to stick to the text we could clear up tons on confusion on everyone's part emoticon

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Ah, but no matter how they're divided, or how they're translated, these are also written on our hearts - we know it's wrong to lie, to steal, to commit adultery.

We are left without excuse.



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If they are written on our hearts, then why were they ever written in stone and translated by the many over the years?

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I don't know. So that there are two witnesses to God's law?

Written in stone, yet people still deny them. Written on the heart, but people suppress their conscience.



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Or made up and written in stone to entrap them, or written on paper to control them?

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