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Morwen Oronor
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Re: The Evolution Theory Quiz
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Excuse me Mo but what Queeny was asking was a simple curiosity question. There was no reprimand or RB mod intervention and if I suspected there was such I guarantee you I would be saying something in the RB inner sanctums. I mean really, LG and I are more than capable of making sure this board is TOS compliant and no insult or slight was intended by Queeny's post that I can see. She was just curious and making conversation.
I see your point of view Rick, but I also see it from my point of view, accusing me of wanting to have the last word was a personal attack, in my opinion anyway.
Her post was a reprimand, not conversational. And what she said to Petal, I saw as another personal attack.
We see things differently. Where I come from, if you have a beef with someone you speak to them personally, which I did when I spoke to Mel and told him that I wasn't in a position to dislike him personally because I don't know him. The subject was then closed, Queeny reopened it, thus giving me the right to again defend my position. This whole thing is a storm in a teacup that was done, but now it's become a huge issue.
I apologise that again it had to happen on your board, I therefore will remove myself from here as soon as the issue is closed. I don't care who has the 'last word.' If my anger with Queeny's interference is out of place, I again, apologise.
And if Queeny was not acting as a mod but merely as another poster, she should of merely left the issue alone, as it was closed.
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12/10/2009, 11:13 pm
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Morwen Oronor
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Re: The Evolution Theory Quiz
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I had tons of free time (a curse of having a 97% comprehension ability).
Oh, wow, that's gonna make it difficult to foil you on one of the Bible quizes then, isn't it? But then, some questions are worded a little ambiguous, so maybe....
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Queeny I don't really think I was speaking to you.
Wow. Isn't this a message board where people interact with one another. I was not under the impression that we were having any sort of private conversation - that's what PMs are for.
I don't know what you're talking about. My disagreement with Queeny's post was with her and not with you, my beef with you about your accusation that I was lying was public, I was therefore entitled to defend myself publicly and besides it was closed. Apologies were given and accepted and the matter was closed.
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I know that you are a Runboard Mod and that you are allowed to go to any board and behave like the head prefect, but why I do anything or 'bother' to do anything is really I hate to say it: none of your business, and certainly not enough for you to attack me personally as when you point out my perceived desire to 'have the last word!'
I honestly didn't see any sort of attack at all, just a simple question, and I was kinda wondering that myself. But since most everything I say tends to be construed in the worst possible way, I refrained from asking.
Maybe you didn't see the comment about my wanting to 'have the last word' as an attack but it was, and besides her attack was public, I was allowed to defend myself publicly. And I was not speaking to you.
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My discussion was firstly with Mel and then with Pastor Rick and not with you.
Again, message boards are pretty much open to whoever would like to discuss things, right?
You've asked the question I will answer. Yes, if she'd said something in your defence, like "I don't personally think he was accusing you of 'lying', he is my friend and I know he wouldn't do that." I would have said that it was nice of her to defend a friend but that the matter was over but she went into a tirade to Petal about defending me and didn't say anything about what a nice person you are. Again I was talking to her and not to you. If you are defending her as her friend, then she's lucky to have your support, you are a good friend to her.
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But again, I understand that as a Runboard moderator you have the right to reprimand me if my posts are out of line and if my posts are out of line, I apologise to the management of this board and Runboard.
C'mon Morwen, you know better than that. This has nothing to do with who's a mod, it's just turned into a rant because you don't like what was asked.
Whether I liked what was asked or didn't is not the point, she reprimanded me for ranting at you for accusing me of lying and then told me to not play a game and to ignore the thread if I didn't want to play among other things. This is the sort of things mods say, normal members just leave fights between individuals alone unless they are involved in the fights. If they are defending a friend's stance, then they should say so, not accuse people of wanting to 'have the last word.'
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If anyone would like me to delete my Runboard subscription, I won't need a second warning. I am quite happy to leave any place where I don't feel welcome, and your comments which compare me to someone who I consider my intellectual inferior, certainly made me feel very unwelcome.
That wasn't very nice to say about Bummie. What is it that makes you feel like you're so much better than anyone else? For all your complaining, griping and whining about being attacked, belittled and put down, I've got to say that to me, it seems that you are the worst offender. I don't say that to be mean, but simply that you might look at yourself and see if there isn't anything that you might want to change in your interaction with others who may disagree with you. This is not an attack, but truth in love.
Don't be silly Mel, there's no love involved, this is another reprimand from with a bit of hyposcrisy, but I'm not going to say you are self-righteous because that would be a personal attack, but your comment is a little that way. You dislike Bummy as much as the rest of us and you don't know the whole story behind my row with him, because most of it was between us and you weren't there to see what it was really all about. I'm tired of the whole sorry business with him being dragged around these boards, but if he had attacked you the way he did me you would also place yourself a little above his pettiness and yes, as regards intellect, I know how intelligent I am. I am not tied to biblical humility, there's nothing to be humble about. I've spent some 50 years amassing a whole lot of knowledge about a whole lot of subjects, I'm entitled to acknowledge my intellect especially when people who have a higher intelligence than I do, recognise that intellect and our erstwhile friend is nowhere near my level intellectually. Is that arrogant, I don't care if it's perceived as arrogance, I've been called a lot worst but I've never been called stupid, I would see that as an extreme insult. By classing me with that stupid individual, I am highly insulted.
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Please do not insult me personally by putting me and that that awful man into the same category, I am sure that personal insults are against Runboard rules.
Sometimes you crack me up, Morwen! In the same sentence you are calling someone else names while making threats about your perception of "personal insults" against yourself. Again, try to take a step back and look at this from an outside perspective. Maybe you're too close, emotions running too high. Sometimes it is good to formulate a reply in an email, and then go back through and read it again a few hours later before you decide to post it. I have personally thrown out many of those type of replies. And I'm glad I did.
I do not make threats Mel, if merely said I would leave this board and I shall as soon as you all let this thing go. I don't need to be told how to conduct myself.
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I am now retreating into Anything Goes. If people wish to not visit Anything Goes because I am the 'owner'
Well, I won't visit because you banned me.
You know why so don't pretend innocence. You are not the subject of a discussion here, don't make this personal.
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I don't really have an inclination to waste time in pursuits that don't stimulate my intellect or where my presence is unwelcome.
You're always welcome at my board, Morwen. I do not have many rules, and I'm not heavy handed in banning. I welcome differing views and opinions because it makes for interesting discussion.
Thank you for the invitation, Mel but I don't have the time.
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Pastor Rick again it seems that I tend to cause dissent when I visit other people's boards
I know you're not talking to me, but have you ever stopped to consider why this might be? Have you ever stepped back and looked at your posts from a neutral perspective? When someone says something about you, have you ever not attacked, but just stopped and asked, "Is that what you see in me?" Sometimes some self-reflection can do some good in our lives.
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If you would like to chat to me, you are more than welcome to visit Anything Goes.
Can I come?
You are quite right Mel, this is not about you, it's about me. My replies do provoke arguments on these boards because I don't hide my opinions behind a cloak of hypocrisy and humility. If I know something I'll say what I know, if I like something I'll say I like it and if I don't like it, I'll say so too. Accept me at face value, there's no hidden agenda but again, this last bit was about me and how my posts tend to cause arguments, I will therefore remove myself as soon as you stop replying to what was a post directed at Queeny in the first place in response to a tirade she directed at me (and Petal) and a apology to Rick, you weren't involved but your defence of Queeny is noted and respected now stay out of it, please.
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12/10/2009, 11:37 pm
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Kaunisto
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Re: The Evolution Theory Quiz
Let's all just cool down here a little.
But I guess I'll have jump in enough to make (more or less) clear where I stand.
I've known MO and Petal longer and better than the rest of you, so I'm "siding" with them - if this actually gets that far that one has to pick sides.
Mel should know better than to call someone a liar (without a helluva good reason), that's really against the unwritten internet rules. But that's settled well anough between them.
(And for the record, I have no doubt of MO's knowledge on this matter, same as many other things. Call it "knowing the enemy"  )
I think Queeny's choise of words was bad (least to say) and had tone of offence (or even picking a fight), but I also think "our side's" response escalated this mess unnecessarily.
And PR... uh, hello 
(Just had to say something to you too.)
I use too much brackets (occasionally) 
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12/11/2009, 2:25 am
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Order ofMelchizedek
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Re: The Evolution Theory Quiz
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And I was not speaking to you.
Are we still having trouble understanding what a "message board" is all about?
Anyway, here's the thing. It doesn't matter if you were speaking to me. I'M SPEAKING TO YOU.
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Again I was talking to her and not to you.
Isnt' there a place you can go for private conversations? If you post it, I just may very well answer, if I feel like it, no matter who you were speaking to.
If you don't like that, maybe you should go ahead and pack up and run back to your own place where you're in charge.
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Whether I liked what was asked or didn't is not the point, she reprimanded me for ranting at you for accusing me of lying
Wrong, you were not "reprimanded" in any way at all. A question about your motivation was asked of you.
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This is the sort of things mods say, normal members just leave fights between individuals alone unless they are involved in the fights.
WHAT? How long have you been posting over here Morwen? You jump in and fight with anyone you feel like. Maybe you should inform Petal of that one. I personally don't have a problem with anyone jumping into any fight, discussion or argument, that's what message boards are for. You post something, and others post back. But if you seriously believe that everyone should just stay out of other people's "business" here on a message board, then you really ought to practice what you preach, and inform your friends to do the same.
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If they are defending a friend's stance, then they should say so, not accuse people of wanting to 'have the last word.'
I'll go ahead and stand up to defend Queeny's stance on that one. From what I've seen, you generally do like to have the last word. So what?
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Don't be silly Mel, there's no love involved, this is another reprimand from with a bit of hyposcrisy, but I'm not going to say you are self-righteous because that would be a personal attack, but your comment is a little that way.
So now you're judging me, calling me names and denying what you're doing all along. You're a piece of work, Morwen. But still, as a fellow human being, there is love for you. For our fight is not against flesh and blood, but in the spiritual realm.
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You dislike Bummy as much as the rest of us
I most certainly do not! Who do you think you are that you could tell me who I like and dislike? You've not only judged both Bummy and I, but now you'll tell us what we think, and how far below you we are.
Here's what I find Morwen, this is my opinion from numerous discussions with you on the boards. You are more like the caricature that you've created of me than I am. All the names you've called me in the past, it's not me, it's you projecting your own bad qualities onto me so that you can distance yourself from them.
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and yes, as regards intellect, I know how intelligent I am.
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I am not tied to biblical humility, there's nothing to be humble about. I've spent some 50 years amassing a whole lot of knowledge about a whole lot of subjects, I'm entitled to acknowledge my intellect especially when people who have a higher intelligence than I do, recognise that intellect
You would have nothing if it were not granted to you by the God you deny. But pride goes before a fall, so watch out for that.
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and our erstwhile friend is nowhere near my level intellectually. Is that arrogant, I don't care if it's perceived as arrogance, I've been called a lot worst but I've never been called stupid, I would see that as an extreme insult. By classing me with that stupid individual, I am highly insulted.
Yes Morwen, it is arrogance. You consider yourself worth more than another human being because of your own self-righteousness. I won't call you stupid, but I don't see you anywhere near the intellectual level you seem to think you're at.
I will not insult Bummy by putting the two of you in the same category.
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I do not make threats Mel, if merely said I would leave this board and I shall as soon as you all let this thing go. I don't need to be told how to conduct myself.
Of course you do. Your conduct leaves much to be desired.
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You know why so don't pretend innocence. You are not the subject of a discussion here, don't make this personal.
You banned me because you disagree with me, it's that simple. (I've still got your PM - Now that's how you go about having a private discussion with someone. Anything on the boards is open for a response from anyone who wants to respond. )
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Thank you for the invitation, Mel but I don't have the time.
As much as we disagree, the invitation stands.
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You are quite right Mel, this is not about you, it's about me. My replies do provoke arguments on these boards because I don't hide my opinions behind a cloak of hypocrisy and humility.
I often get the same reaction. Some places have even banned me, can you imagine? Haha, how does it feel to be put in the same category with me? Anyone else see it?
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If I know something I'll say what I know, if I like something I'll say I like it and if I don't like it, I'll say so too. Accept me at face value, there's no hidden agenda but again, this last bit was about me and how my posts tend to cause arguments, I will therefore remove myself as soon as you stop replying to what was a post directed at Queeny in the first place
Yes, you will run away because you can't take it. Go back to where you can ban anyone who disagrees or posts exactly what they feel - in other words, you can get rid of anyone that has the personality of yourself, but from a different viewpoint.
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you weren't involved but your defence of Queeny is noted and respected now stay out of it, please.
No thank you, I would prefer to stay involved. Sometimes my replies provoke arguments because I don't hide my opinions. Accept me at face value, I'm telling you what I see.
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Do you not know? Have you not heard? He gives strength to the weary. To those who hope in Him, they will soar like eagles. -RSJ
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12/14/2009, 2:48 pm
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Pastor Rick
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Re: The Evolution Theory Quiz
And with that I suppose we should close this quiz. It is very late and I need to get some sleep. Please do try and remember the by-line for this board. I won't yell or ban anyone for having a difference of opinion but I do ask that everyone try and act like a civilized person.
I'll do another quiz tomorrow for those who like to play.
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12/15/2009, 4:12 am
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